Netflix woos gamers, Pegasus spyware attacks iPhones: Vertical Hold Ep 338
Netflix is moving into the games space (while Steam takes on the Nintendo Switch) — but what happens when new entrants come into the gaming space? Meanwhile, Apple’s record on rock-solid iPhone security looks shaky with revelations around Pegasus spyware — but what’s the real risk?
Special guests Stilgherrian and The Age/SMH’s Tim Biggs!
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A lot of tech news to get through this week, with iPhone security under threat due to NSO’s Pegasus Spyware. But how real is the risk to the average consumer — and what can you do to check your own device? We chat to Stilgherrian about the risks and realities of smartphone usage in an age of government surveillance.

Meanwhile, in the games world, talk from Netflix is that they’re getting into the games space, starting with mobile games as part of your Netflix subscription.
But who really wants that — and what would a Tiger King game look like anyway?
We’re joined by the Age/SMH Tech Editor Tim Biggs to dissect Netflix’s plans, as well as take a deep dive into the value (or not) of the oddly named Valve Steam Deck!